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Re: Europa-List: Coolant Temps.

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Coolant Temps.
From: ALAN YERLY <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:09:48
Careful on the 1.2 bar cap.  The reduction in boiling over with the 
extra pressure is not worth the potential for leaking hoses.  Unless you 
replaced all the spring clamps with worm clamps, I would not do that.  

As for the inlets, I leave mine the size they are due to ground cooling. 
 It's a trade off.

Bud 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Karl Heindl<mailto:kheindl@msn.com> 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:43 PM
  Subject: RE: Europa-List: Coolant Temps.


  Hi Bud,
   
  Thanks for your recommendations. I am only concerned because I don't 
recall a coolant problem from previous years.
  I did make anumber of changes to the way the air flows over the engine 
(Ihave a trigear 912S), but they should all 
  help with the cooling and reduction of drag:
  1) I cut back the aluminum duct tail end to the radiator and this is 
the main air outlet to the bottom of the fuselage.
  2) I sealed the gills.
  3) I taped over the main stbd Naca duct.
  4) I closed the outboard 60% of the two round inlets. I don't see the 
point of cooling the exhaust pipes.
  5) I closed the gap between the round baffle inlet and the baffle.
  6) I reduced the height of the main inlet by about 30mm, streamlined 
the interior of the duct, and made sure that 
       there are no more gaps either at the front or around the 
radiators.
  7)  The radiators are mounted just as you described.
  8)  The hoses all have a smooth run, and the two main ones to the 
radiator are silicone and preshaped.
   
  In essence, I have reduced the cowl openings by 50% and doubled the 
exit openings.
  The performance improvement in the cruise is considerable. The 
temperature under the top cowling is around
  15 degrees C above oat.
  I see your note about  coolant mixture, and that concurs  with a note 
in the Rotax handbook.  I think I will try that
  and maybe change the pressure cap to 1.2 bar. 
   
  Karl

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  From: budyerly@msn.com
  To: europa-list@matronics.com
  Subject: Re: Europa-List: Coolant Temps.
  Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:53:38 -0400


  Karl,

  Sounds to me like the duct sealing may have been compromised.
  Another culprit can be the hose running from the top expansion tank to 
the radiator.  Sometimes that bend gets pinched a little.

  I don't know what engine you have, but my experience here in Florida 
with the XS cowl and Rotax engines follows:

  1.  Lower the oil cooler as far down as you can get it.  Typically 1.5 
inches is easily attained.  That lowers oil temps nearly 15 degrees.

  2.  Make sure the cowl seal rubber is doing its job to include around 
the top front of the duct.  Any high pressure air getting from the lower 
duct into the cowl cuts cooling.  The engine is partially air cooled 
also.

  3.  Seal the gaps on the side and below the oil cooler.  The duct 
works best when entering air stacks up and slows down in front of the 
coolers so as to get efficient heat transfer.  I bend a piece of 
stainless which I attach to the oil cooler bottom and bend it to make a 
nice tight seal underneath also.  When taxiing, that really makes a 
difference.  I also continue the seal back to the cowl exit.

  Other techniques:

  4.  For info only, I run 70/30 Dexcool which doesn't boil until 276F 
vs. 265F for 50/50.

  5.  Taxi with coarse pitch to get more air in the duct.

  If you have a mono, I do a number of other mods too numerous to email 
about.

  Bud
  Custom Flight Creations


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Karl Heindl<mailto:kheindl@msn.com> 
    To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
    Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:06 PM
    Subject: Europa-List: Coolant Temps.


     
    After changing all coolant hoses and coolant 50/50 I am now getting 
much higher coolant temperatures while taxiing and climbing, typically 
25 C above the oil temperature. In the cruise the temperatures are all 
within 2 degrees of each other. I don't think I had this problem before. 
The radiator sits in front of the oil cooler. What could be the problem 
? The pressure cap is .9 bar.
    Any suggestions ?
    Karl
     

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