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Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 06/01/13
From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 20:08:27

Gidday,
Thanks to Richard Wheelwright, Richard Collings, and Ron Parigoris for their 
replies
regarding TE Lift Pin Sockets. I had to move all 4 of my lift pin socket
plates from the sides of the fuselage, due to them being in the wrong position,
and no, my dimensions are correct. A bunch of other builders, well at least
one other, have had to move plates. So, the rear plates were extracted and moved
---From the outside due to access with the cockpit module in the way. Suffice
to say I have a buildup over the plates that whilst over the top of the plates
it is flat, as you migrate outward, I have multiple plies of cloth including
the mandatory 4 plies of BID for reinforcement. So, whilst I like curves of the
feminine sense, I hate them otherwise. I've got curves going off in all 
directions
and I'm just hopeless at the trial and error of shaping ply. I have an
admission, I love car bog. Polyester resin mixed with talc. Easy to sand, easy
to shape. I am wondering if rather than ply I could apply car bog over the plate
area, shape it nicely, and then layup over the top of it. It aint going to
crack away or migrate anywhere as it is captive by the BID, and should remain
"in"compressible, certainly no more than ply. Or, if the car bog is the issue,
why not apply it, shape it, splash it, fill it with redux and flox, and redux
it back on? I can build most of the kit but when it comes to multiple fit and
sand, fit and sand, etc, I know most will think it an easy thing, but I struggle
and simply don't enjoy it. So, any other options??
Regards
Tony Renshaw
Whingy Aussie


On 02/06/2013, at 5:01 PM, Europa-List Digest Server <europa-list@matronics.com>
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> From: Richard Wheelwright <rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rear Trailing Edge Lift Pin Socket Mounting
> 
> Tony,=0A--- Depending on the thickness you need. I used waste from th
> e tri-gear leg sockets ribs. I cut a 2 1/2 inch circle with a hole saw, the
> n it was cut down through its edge at the angel needed to contour the side 
> of the fuselage. Worked a treat.=0A=0A===========
> =========0A=0ARichard Wheelwright=0A======
> ==============0A =0A=0A__________________________
> ______=0A From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>=0ATo: europa-list@m
> atronics.com =0ASent: Saturday, 1 June 2013, 9:17=0ASubject: Europa-List: R
> ear Trailing Edge Lift Pin Socket Mounting=0A  =0A=0A--> Europa-List messag
> e posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>=0A=0AI would like to r
> equest advice regarding methods of shaping the ply inserts for the rear Tra
> iling Edge Lift Pin Sockets if anyone has digressed from the manual, either
> by material/medium or method. Thanks.=0ARegards=0ATony Renshaw=0ASydney Au
> ==================
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> 
> From: "richard" <rcollings@talktalk.net>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rear Trailing Edge Lift Pin Socket Mounting
> 
> I did the same as Richard W , I drew a circle on a piece of the 12mm 
> plywood the same dia as the bracket tried it in place with the wings in 
> position then once I had the thickness correct blended out from the 
> bracket circle to the edge this made the outside dia about 3 1/2 inches 
> . Then glue and glass as per manual.  Good luck Richard C
> 
> From: Richard Wheelwright 
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 9:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rear Trailing Edge Lift Pin Socket Mounting
> 
> Tony,
>    Depending on the thickness you need. I used waste from the tri-gear 
> leg sockets ribs. I cut a 2 1/2 inch circle with a hole saw, then it was 
> cut down through its edge at the angel needed to contour the side of the 
> fuselage. Worked a treat.
> 
> ==================
> 
> Richard Wheelwright
> ==================
> 
> From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, 1 June 2013, 9:17
> Subject: Europa-List: Rear Trailing Edge Lift Pin Socket Mounting
> 
> 
> <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
> 
> I would like to request advice regarding methods of shaping the ply 
> inserts for the rear Trailing Edge Lift Pin Sockets if anyone has 
> digressed from the manual, either by material/medium or method. Thanks.
> Regards
> Tony Renshaw
> Sydney st" 
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> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rear Trailing Edge Lift Pin Socket Mounting
> From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us
> 
> 
>       Hi Tony
> 
> 
>       "anyone has digressed from the manual, either by material/medium or
> method."
> 
> 
>       Here&#39;s how I did it:
> 
> 
>       http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=31838
> 
> 
>       Ron Parigoris
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