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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Carb Icing
From: Carl Pattinson <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:09:39

I believe you are wrong when you say there is a permanent 60w load on the 
power bus. The ST system has 2x 15 watt heaters on each deicer module. They 
can be switched independently and used together or separately.

The total load on all 4 heaters (2 per carb) is 60 watts but in flight it 
would be sufficient to only utilise half the load to keep the carbs warm. 
The additional 30 watts could be switched in on takeoff and landing (or when 
needed).

Unless you are running an incredibly complex panel you shouldnt be needing 
the output which the alternator is capable of delivering.

The only reason I am considering these is because I am retrofitting my 
heating system and I dont wish to have to drain down the radiators etc.

If I had the choice (ie: prior to completing our Europa) I would have 
definitely opted for the skydrive system as I think it is an inherently 
better design ( it can be left on permanently and consumes negligible power/ 
energy). My main issues are with the installation process.

My only concern over the ST system is that the heatsource is somewhat 
localised (heater is bolted to the LHS of the carb whereas the Skydrive 
system distributes the heat evenly where it is required.

---From what I have been told the Skydrive is difficult to fit and really 
requires a hydraulic press to force the heater unit inside the carb body. I 
wonder how many have been split/ damaged in the process.

Does anybody know if Skydrive offer a fitting service. I would be concerned 
that I might be picking up the cost for a new carb unit if anything went 
wrong.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mau11" <mau11@free.fr>
Subject: RE : Europa-List: Carb Icing


>
> Hello,
> I know this system, the big problem is the permanent upload charge of
> electrical network during service 60w.
>
> Personnaly I use Skydrive since 250 hours (I am very happy)and the two
> main advantage are:
> 1 no electrical consumption
> 2 Permanent service (I had a valve into the cowling for shut down but I
> never used)
>
> Monowheel N145
>
>       --|--
> --------(*)--------
>
> Michel AUVRAY
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Carl
> Pattinson
> Envoy : vendredi 21 janvier 2005 00:26
> : europa-list@matronics.com
> Objet : Europa-List: Carb Icing
>
>
> --> <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> I recently commented on the Skydrive vs the ST Aviation carb heater
> option.
>
> Here is the link for the ST version. There is a photo showing how it is
> fitted.
>
> http://www.jabiru.co.uk/IceEliminator.htm
>
>
> 




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