Hi Carl,
Mine's a 912 Classic, but I didn't remove the engine. I removed the pipe,
cut it, inserted the tee and pipe and then put it back. Fiddley, but
doable. My heaters have done about 600 hrs without any problems and give
much confidence.
Good luck,
William
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Carb Icing
<carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> I totally agree with the bit about paying Skydrive to fit the carb heater
modules.
>
> Draining the water system is trivial. Take off Air filter (you would have
to
> do that anyway to get the carbs off). Take off water filler cap. Put bowl
> underneath bungey. Be ready to move bowl.
>
> OK so far
>
> Use Stanley knife to cut the pipe
> at the back of the engine just below the flywheel cover (and THAT is an
over
> description of a flimsy bit of plastic that does not keep water out of the
> flywheel housing !). Make a decisive cut. Water p*sses out, into bowl
which
> you move to catch as much as possible to avoid having to clean it up off
the
> floor. (You won't be re-using it !)
>
> Unless I have read this wrong heres another reason I dont want to attempt
this. On the original Classic engine assembly, there is virtually no space
between the firewall and the back of the engine (my engine dosent have the
plastic cover that you mention). It would be damn near impossible to make
the cuts that you describe without removing the engine and unless the engine
breaks I dont intend to take it off.
>
> If I have got this wrong, let me know.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Holder" <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Carb Icing
>
>
> >
> >> From what I have been told the Skydrive is difficult to fit and really
> >> requires a hydraulic press to force the heater unit inside the carb
body. I
> >> wonder how many have been split/ damaged in the process.
> >>
> >> Does anybody know if Skydrive offer a fitting service. I would be
concerned
> >> that I might be picking up the cost for a new carb unit if anything
went
> >> wrong.
> >
> > I came to the same conclusion as the carbs were definitely not round
enough
> > to even hold the heater on a thou or two while being put into the vice.
In
> > the end, rather than risk a 400 or more carb (or two !) I sent them back
to
> > SkyDrive and they fitted them for 15. OK the postage added another 30
but
> > I considered it money well spent !
> >
> > In fact my recommendation is that you take your carbs off and send them
to
> > SkyDrive and order the heaters and their fitting at the same time. That
way
> > you don't pay for an extra leg of the journey for the heaters. I am sure
it
> > only took them 15 minutes and I am sure you could go there and have it
done.
> > If I had realised how expensive the postage was (18 from me to them) I
> > would have driven up there !
> >
> > Like many things someone who has done 50 such pressings will be more
aware
> > of the limitations and the level of force required. I didn't, so it was
> > worth the extra 50.
> >
> > Draining the water system is trivial. Take off Air filter (you would
have to
> > do that anyway to get the carbs off). Take off water filler cap. Put
bowl
> > underneath bungey. Be ready to move bowl. Use Stanley knife to cut the
pipe
> > at the back of the engine just below the flywheel cover (and THAT is an
over
> > description of a flimsy bit of plastic that does not keep water out of
the
> > flywheel housing !). Make a decisive cut. Water p*sses out, into bowl
which
> > you move to catch as much as possible to avoid having to clean it up off
the
> > floor. (You won't be re-using it !)
> >
> > After inserting the t-pieces and replacement of the heater connected
carbs,
> > fill up the water and bleed the pipe between the heaters as specified in
the
> > instructions. And Bob is your mother's brother !
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Richard
> > Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS)
> > Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax)
> > Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile)
> > SG12 8SH email : richard.holder@avnet.co.uk
> > Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, High Cross
> > PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford)
> >
> >
>
>
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