Where do I get a Barbara (smartass)?
Will
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce
Sent: 17 September 2012 04:08
Subject: Re: Europa-List: A question to the American "Europeans"
Svein, This isn't an answer to your question and indeed it comes from the
wrong side of the pond, but after reading the report and noting that 44% of
the US fatal accidents are realted to loss of control in the air
(effectively stall spin accidents) it occurred to me that our transatlantic
friends might be interested in the article recently published over here in
the LAA mag. If taken seriously I believe it would savea lot of the 44% from
a nasty end. The pictures have been removed to (hopefully) allow it to
travel, but no doubt you can use your imagination.
Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
"Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
wrote:
> NTSB issued in May a very interesting report on accidents with
>amateur-built airplanes compared to certified airplanes, based on
>detailed evaluation of the numbers behind the summary statistics:
>
> <http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/reports/2012/SS1201.pdf>
> http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/reports/2012/SS1201.pdf
>
>
> One of their findings is that many more accidents caused by loss of
>control in the air happen with amateur-built than with certified
>airplanes, and that a high percentage is with second-hand airplanes a
>short time after being
> purchased. NTSB points to the fact that FAA do not
>follow the same
> practice as many other countries do, in that FAA do not require a
>pre-approved test flight program, nor approval of a report on the test
>flying (only a log book entry that test flight has been completed),
>which in turn may cause the pilot's operating handbook/flight manual
>to be lacking important airplane characteristics.
>
>
> What the NTSB report do not say anything about, however, is mandatory
>transition training and check out in the specific amateur-built
>airplane.
> Under the joint European pilot license regime (JAR-FCL), we must
>receive such training and have it entered in our log book. This means
>that before we can fly the Europa we have built (unless approved by
>our CAA to perform the very first flight) we must receive such
>airplane-specific rating, and also before we may pilot another Europa
>than our own, no matter how many hours we have logged in our own plane
>and irrespective of all the similarities between two individual
>Europas.
>
>
> Therefore the following question to the American Europeans on this
>forum:
> Before you can legally be the pilot of ANY experimental classed,
>amateur-built airplane, are you not required by FAA to receive
>transition training/rating check-out by a pre-approved CFI or other
>experienced, approved person, even for flying a "sister" airplane of
>the same type and model that you may already be experienced in?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Svein
>
> LN-SKJ
>
>
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