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RE: Europa-List: Pneumatic Installation

Subject: RE: Europa-List: Pneumatic Installation
From: Karl Heindl <kheindl@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:16:24

I can honestly say that I have never missed not having an AOA. It might be 
useful in a high performance aircraft with tricky flight characteristics or
 a jetfighter with HUD. In the Europa it is a gimmick. When I am close to t
he ground I don't want to be distracted by checking a bunch of instruments.
 I go much by the control feel and the sound of the airplane. The Europa au
dible stall warner works very nicely=2C and gives a little beep before touc
hdown.
In a turn the wings have different angles of attack=2C so how is an AOA ind
icator going to help you=2C when the probe happens to be on the low wing ?
In my glider wings I have installed a stall warner in each wing=2C with dif
ferent piezo sounders. When soaring=2C it is quite common to do tight turns
 at low speeds.
Just my opinion.

Karl

<html><div></div>> Date: Sun=2C 27 Jul 2008 21:03:40 +1200> From: ke
ithhickling@clear.net.nz> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Pneumatic Installation>
Hickling <keithhickling@clear.net.nz>> > "Now=2C to refine the question fro
m a flight safety point of view: Is it safer > to rely on this AoA indicati
on and alarm or avoid being on the edge of the > envelope by a good margin 
in the first place? "> > Jos=2C> As Ron pointed out=2C the AOA is the only 
thing that will tell you how far you > are from the edge of the envelope. U
nder normal weight=2C density altitude=2C no > bank=2C 1g=2C you have a goo
d idea of this from airspeed=2C but as Ron pointed out > with high weight
=2C low density altitude=2C high bank angle and maybe leveling > out from a
 steep descent (so high g)=2C the critical angle of attack (ie > incipient 
stall) will be reached at a very much higher airspeed. AOA allows > you to 
track how close you are to the stall under all these conditions=2C so > tha
t you can maintain a good margin of safety. A stall warner only tells you >
 when you get too close to the stall. And in theory at least AOA can provid
e > other information about airspeed for best L/D ratio (best glide angle) 
under > these varying conditions as well.> > Keith Hickling=2C> New Zealand
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